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The American Bell Association is primarily a group of bell collectors. There are hundreds of different kinds of bells. By no means do all of our members have computers. Many who do, don’t participate in the forum. Many of our members, like me, have no expertise with large bells.
Like any other forum, participation in this one is voluntary. We have no staff designated to do free research for people. We have no appraisers who volunteer their services free of charge. There is no requirement for our members to peruse our forum.
I will go out on a limb and say that questions that are posted on the forum that have not been answered are that way because no participant who has read the question knows the answer. We don’t claim to have all the answers.
You have done a better than average job of describing your friend’s bell in that you’ve told us the maker, the size, a guesstimate on the age and its weight. It would help if you could upload a picture of the bell. But, that is no guarantee that anyone who looks at this forum can tell you the value of the bell.
If your friend would like to sell the bell, he/you are certainly welcome to post it in the “Bells for Sale” section of this forum. We would not accept the responsibility for setting a price for it, however.
In this age of instant gratification, people sometimes forget that a day and a half turnaround for an answer to a question is not a long time. Please understand that we are a collector’s society. We are happy to answer people’s questions when we know the answer. But no one is obligated to respond to questions, especially if they don’t have an answer.
It is unfortunate that your expectations of service from this site were improperly placed.
I’ve never seen a bell like this one nor have I seen pictures of it in the three main bell books (Springer and Baker’s). Is it polished or is it enameled?
I agree that it would be better if the pictures could be enlarged. I had just the opposite problem when I posted a notice of the New England Chapter’s upcoming meeting. The logo is huge and I don’t know how to make it smaller!
The clapper sure looks old. But we know that sometimes new bells have a forced patina on them to make them look older than they really are. I would guess the stand may not have been original to the bell.
Sorry I couldn’t be of help. Hopefully someone out there can shed some light on this.
I have located pictures of two of Sarna’s Christmas bells on page 169 of Collectible Bells by Donna Baker. The first was listed is the 1974 Limited First Edition. The caption says, “Decorated with the three wise men on one side, a nativity scene on the other. Marked ‘Christmas Greetings, 1974′ on the outside and “No. 771 Bells of Sarna, India (C)’ on the inside. The clapper is a plug shaped brass, with “1974” and “Bells of Sarna” incised on the bottom and sides. 8.5″ high. $100-150.” I found one of these in an antique shop today with a price of $14.00 on it. What’s that, about 7 to 8 pounds?
The other Sarna Christmas bell pictured is the 1975 Limited Second Edition. “Six sided brass bell with large lettered wishes for ‘Christmas Cheer Through The Year, 1975.’ Inside markings: ‘Bells of Sarna, India (C), No. 1768, Limited Edition of 3000.’ Same clapper as previous bell, except ‘1975’ is incised on bottom and sides. 6.25″ high. $100-150.”
I still haven’t found anything about the years you asked about.
I’ve done a little quick research but haven’t found anything more than an advertisement in The Bell Tower for November-December 1976, that states it is a “Limited Edition Brass Christmas Bell”, 7″ high, 3,000 issued, numbered, for $60, made by S.S. Sarna. It was advertised by Carol’s Gift Shop, in Artesea, California. There is a picture of the bell and it is in typical “elephant bell” style with a decoration of Santa Claus riding in a sleigh being pulled by reindeer.
I realize this doesn’t help you with information about the 1985 and 1989 bell. If I come across any other information, I will post it here.
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It would help us to identify the bell if you could give us more information. For instance, how tall is the bell? How wide is the bell? Can you read the Latin well enough to print it on the forum? How big is the angel? What color is the bell? What material is it made of?
We have members that specialize in collecting angel bells but there are many, many different bells with angels on them. The more info you can give us, the more likely you are to get an identification!
Dear Bell Friends,
Since my original post regarding “holes” in my collection of Bell Towers, I have found another box of even older issues! (Mom became a member in the mid to late 1950s.) I’m pleasantly surprised because I suspect the collection is pretty complete except for these issues that probably weren’t printed in the first place. But, once again, I would like to verify, if possible, that these issues were not printed.
Were the following issues printed?
By the way, Bob, I have found the April and May 1972 issues. They were cleverly disguised as supplements (“Collectible Glass and Porcelain Bells” by Lenore and Curtis Hammond and “Carillons in the United States and Canada” by Louise Torrance)!
Thanks for your help!
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I am presuming we are looking at the bell from the top (more or less). From your description and the photo, it appears to be a kind of hotel bell or call bell that is rung by twirling rather than tapping.
There are others who are far more knowledgeable than I who can tell you more about the bell. It would help us if you could tell us the height and width of the bell. Also, what is it mounted on (what kind of a base does it have)?”
It looks like a lovely bell! Does it have any markings on it? Often times tap bells will have a patent date on them near the tap.
As far as I know, there is no “master list” of Bell Towers. But having said that, I have not checked with ABA Historian, Leonard Hill, to see if he might have one among the archives.
I figured if anyone would have one, it would be the Collins family but, upon asking, I learned that there often wasn’t time left to organize a library of Bell Towers or to make a record of all the issues after getting out the new Bell Tower! It’s too bad but no one has the right to complain! The Collins family did a super-human job of editing, printing, and mailing for all those years! I don’t know how they did it year, after year, after year. But we’re all so glad they did!
Thank you, Bob, for your kind response to my quest for information! It is very helpful. Looking at the dates of the missing issues, there is really somewhat of a pattern suggesting that it took time to put together the summer, post-convention issues AND have a family life, too! That is certainly understandable!
With appreciation,September 11, 2005 at 1:32 pm in reply to: English translation of the Russian web-site on bells #12674
I’d love to know the story of the bell you are standing beside in the picture under your name! Can you tell us more, please?