What are those two metal bars?
July 5, 2009 at 3:09 pm #11178AnonymousInactive
Steve asks us:
I just bought this bell. It is an LM Rumsey bell, from St Louis MO. It was made in 1897. It is made of bronze and is 17″ high and 17″ in diameter at the bottom of the bell. The wheel needs a repair and the clapper is not there. (there is a makeshift one that I threw away) But the bell is in great condition. I am wondering what the purpose of the 2 metal bars on the inside of the bell where the clapper would first hit. They even have a leather wrapping on them. If I were to have a clapper made, can i just do away with this and have the clapper hit the bell directly? Also, what would the diameter of the ball on the clapper be for a bell of this size.
If you can help, please post a response.
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July 6, 2009 at 3:55 pm #14759kcoonenParticipant
Steve, I watched that bell on the auction site and wondered where it went..now we know!
The “bars” to which you refer are clapper springs designed to restrain the shaft of the clapper from striking the bell a second time on the same swing,which would interrupt the initial ring. the leather pads silence the springs’ “catch” of the clapper.
There are many references to clapper springs within the Forum.
Oh, the crack in the wheel of your bell is a designed notch, the purpose of which I would like to know.
I also have a “Rumsey” bell only mine is steel and was cast in Seneca Falls NY by the Cowing & co. foundry after Rumsey joined them in 1849.
This bell’s wheel also has that notch in the wheel, as do many others I have seen.
I know Rumsey put his name on engines, pumps, bells and mills, and probably many other items he could make a buck with.
Good luck with your nice bell!
July 12, 2009 at 4:55 pm #14760Carl Scott ZimmermanParticipant
Although this bell says St.Louis, it was actually made for Rumsey by the McShane bellfoundry, under what we would now call a “private label” arrangement. All aspects of the style of Rumsey-labelled bronze bells and their fittings are identical to those from McShane. For “Rumsey” bells which are large enough to be hung on A-frames, those A-frames actually bear the McShane name and are identical to the A-frames found on McShane-labelled bells.
Louis M. Rumsey of St.Louis came from the Rumsey family of Seneca Falls, NY, about 1860.
I think the date on your bell is 1887, not 1897. Maybe that was a typo.
I concur with KC’s remark about the clapper springs. They should not be removed, because they help the bell to ring clearly and cleanly.
July 22, 2009 at 9:59 pm #14761lucky13Member
Steve: Have your clapper ball made 3 1/2 inches in dia.
July 28, 2010 at 4:04 pm #14762TowerguyMember
If you are still watching this thread I may have a clapper that will fit laying around. I would need some measurements however
July 29, 2010 at 1:53 am #14763hjlong3Participant
The notch in the wheel is designed for the knot in the end of the rope pull so that the knot does not cause the rope to jump off of the wheel.
Harry Long, MD
August 1, 2010 at 11:10 pm #14764
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