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    • #10917
      decka
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      Here are two of my most prized bells. The top one was made by J.Warner & Sons which features the crown top. The bottom bell that is slighty bigger unfortunatley does not have any makers name or numbers on it. It features a crown top with to lines in the crown going from back to front and two lines going from left to right, very sturdy. Sorry for the poor quality pics.

    • #13977
      Carolyn Whitlock
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      Dear Decka,

      I’m really enjoying seeing the pictures of the bells from your collection that you have been posting! You have many beauties! Further, they are bells that many of us don’t often or ever see so we really appreciate your efforts to share them with us! Please keep posting!

      Now, I must ask. Are you a member of the American Bell Association International? We have at least 9 ABA members in Australia and, in fact, do have a chapter called “Kangaroo Bell Club Australia” that meets on the third Saturday of February and the fourth Saturdays of May, August, and November. Among the places they live are Victoria, New South Wales, Brisbane, Tasmania, and Queensland. If you would like more information about the ABA and/or the Kangaroo Bell Club, please send me an e-mail at carolynwhitlock@gmail.com.

      Now, I have another question. I think that structure on which you have the twin crown bells hanging is fantastic! What a great way to display them! Did you make or have that rack custom made?

      Please give serious consideration to joining ABA! You’d be a great asset to the organization and you’d learn a lot about all kinds of bells, too!

      Carolyn

    • #13978
      Neil Goeppinger
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      I can give just a little history of the J. Warner & Sons firm as regards bell casting in the U.S. There is a connection.

      Paul Revere was a famous patriot and all school children here learn about him. He was active in our war of independence from England in the 1770’s. Making a long story short, he was owed money by the new government after the war and they partially paid him by giving him cannon. There was no market for cannon so he melted them down and recast them into bells, for which there was a market. He learned how to do this from another man he knew during the war named Aaron Hobart who ran another foundry. Hobart had hired a British army deserter named Gilliam who had worked in England in a bell foundry prior to his military service.

      Paul Revere became the first major bell foundry in the U.S. Eventually, after our Revolutionary War, but before the War of 1812 (also between the U.S. and England) relations between the two countries normalized to the point there was a good deal of trade and travel. Paul Revere, wanting to improve his bell design, sent his son to England to study English made bells. The son looked at many, and decided the J. Warner bells were well designed and liked their sound, so he bought one and shipped it to the Revere Foundry. They then changed the shape of the Revere bells based on the J. Warner bell. We know the story because Revere eventually sold the J. Warner bell to a church and the church still has it along with the story of how they came to buy it from the Revere Foundry and they still have the bill of sale. Unfortunatly for the church, a Revere bell is a much more sought after bell than a J. Warner bell, but fortunatly for the rest of us, the history has been saved because they bought it.

      At least seven other foundries eventually traced their beginnings to people who learned bell making at the Revere Foundry, thus starting the bell foundry industry in the U.S. Some of those foundries made thousands of bells.

      I didn’t help you learn much about J. Warner and Sons, but I did fill you in on a detail. I have a J. Warner & Sons bell also, because of its connection to Revere. Mine is in a unique wraught iron mounting, but does not have a crown, just a tang on top which is bolted into the yoke. It’s the only English large bell I have as I basically restrict myself to collecting U.S. made bells. More fun.
      — Neil

    • #13979
      decka
      Participant

      Thankyou both for your feedback your wealth in knowledge is a great asset. I have all my bells on display in my home which in my opinion is the way it should be ( seen, heard & enjoyed ).

      Carolyn the stand for mounting the two bells was made by my father. He is not a builder by trade but has a gift with his hands. I explained to him that I wanted to display the bells together on one stand to save space and asked him to design something and build it for me. Two days later he had the stand built and asked me what colour I would like it stained. I couldn’t believe how fast he put it together.

      Thanx again,
      Dave

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