Welcome to the ABA! Bell Talk Forums Small Bells Please Help identify this bell

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    • #10925
      gramsgarage
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      I have a bell I am wanting to identify the origin of, maker, when it was made, value, or anything else you can tell me about it. This bell belongs to my mom, and she has no idea any more where she got it from. It apprears to be brass, I magnet tested it and the only part the magnet sticks to is the piece attached to the clapper. It has “letters” and “symbols” on it. It stands 4″ high and the bell opening measures 2 5/8″ across. My mom thinks it is really old due to the pitena on it. In a couple of the pictures it appears that there is some flaking of the bell, but there is not, this bell is quite solid. Any information you have would be helpful. I have links to several photos!! Thanks!!! Chris

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    • #14000
      hjlong
      Member

      This bell has the appearance of a relatively new cast bronze bell. I say new in that the handle is clearly “sand cast” and the bell has grinding marks where the mould marks were crudely removed. The clapper is steel wire with a ball cast on it, a relatively new process. The patina has been added to make it look old. It was probably made in Mexico within the past 10 years. Max Kurillo can probably give you more details, as he is an expert concerning these bells.
      Harry Long, MD

    • #14001
      gramsgarage
      Participant

      How can I cantact Max Krillo? I know my mom has had this bell since the early 90’s making it over 10 yeas old, so I am wondering if Mexico made these bells more than 10 years ago. Thanks!!!

      Chris

    • #14002
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Chris,

      If you go to the “Search” box at the top of the page and put in the name Max Kurillo, an index of his postings will come up on your screen. Select any of his postings and look for the box on the right hand side that says PM (Private Message) on it and click. An e-mail form will come up where you can send a message to him. Max’s personal e-mail address will not be shown but the message will be forwarded to him. He can respond to you either via posting a message on the forum or by sending you a personal message response to yours. If you give him your personal e-mail address, he can respond directly to you but that method doesn’t help the rest of us learn!

      Good luck,

      Carolyn

    • #14003
      gramsgarage
      Participant

      Carolyn,
      Thank you for that information!! I will contact him, and see what his response is and can share his information as a reply post on this thread so we can all share in his knowledge!!!

      Chris

    • #14004
      Vrezh
      Participant

      Chris,

      I am sure Max would agree with me that this bell is a very poor reproduction of a much older bell. It is obvious that it was worked poorly and quickly, probably for a mass production to sell at local tourist spots.

    • #14005
      maxkurillo
      Participant

      Hi Chris and everyone,
      Join the old Mexican bell group. You have a bell quite like the one I have. It is only worth what we paid for it. These types of bells cannot be traced beyond the mid 1950. So, it makes this bell 40-50+ years old, at most. These bells tend to show up on e-bay often and sellers have a field day with them. I have records of a 12″ bell of this type selling for over $400. Some of the missions in California have one or two of these bells, of course the visitors get the ” cast on the mission grounds by the Indians” talk. You can identify these bells ( that range in size from 2″ to 18″) by the random patterns, fonts and numbers. I hope by the end of this year or maybe next year’s resulution to publish in the Bell Tower pictures and history concering these bells. Since you have this “jewel” I would like to suggese two things: 1) Contact Carolyn and find out about the Bell Tower and Index, both very valuable documents when looking for bells, and 2) show it off and let it become a conversation item. What ever you do, have fun with it. Max Kurillo

    • #14006
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      The directory of Bell Tower articles that Max refers to can be found on the ABA’s main website at https://americanbell.org/files/080424_belltower_index.pdf You can also find out how to get a copy of any of the articles mentioned in the directory (or index).

      The Bell Tower is the official magazine of the American Bell Association International, Inc. It was first published in the early 1940s as a newsletter but has grown over the years into a 48-page bi-monthly magazine that includes well-written, researched articles about bells. The editor includes articles on different kinds of bells in each issue.

      A subscription to The Bell Tower is a “benefit of membership” in the American Bell Association International, Inc. The only way to receive the magazine on an ongoing basis is to be a member of the ABA. The information contained in the magazine is definitely worth the $35 a year ABA dues. Members outside North America pay an extra fee to help pay for the cost of international mailing.

      Back to your bell, the Directory of Bell Tower articles shows 10 articles on Mexican bells are available.

      Good luck!
      Carolyn
      coordinator@americanbell.org

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