Welcome to the ABA! Bell Talk Forums Large Bells Naval Bell with Wire Clapper

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    • #12151
      helphistory
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      In regards to Willie B Herd’s topic. I have a quite similar bell measuring 10″ at bottom and 5″ across. I acquired this bronze or brass bell from an old 87 year old friend that had an Army and Navy Surplus store for over 40 years. He said this bell was a Naval ship bell without hesitation. You will see the patina and wear at the top where it was hanging. At least 2/16th has been worn through. The brass clapper has a flat spot on two sides where it definately was used a great deal. The strap was used to hang it up in his barn with all of his surplus inventory. By the way a newbee here. Bill

    • #17177
      helphistory
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      another

    • #17178
      helphistory
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      clapper

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      helphistory
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      helphistory
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    • #17181
      Willie B. Herd
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      Welcome Bill, Yes it’s very similar….the base diameter and the grooves cut in outside are about the only differences.

      Do U have any more info? Thanks, Willie 8)

    • #17182
      helphistory
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      Willie. The only thing I can say is this bell is definately old and was told by my friend it is a Navy ships bell. The clapper is original to this bell. The wear shows. I hope this helps? Bill

    • #17183
      jackbell
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      Here’s one similar, probably made in India or China. A true naval bell does not have a clapper suspended from a piece of wire.

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-SOLID-BRASS-SHIP-BELL-Maritime-NAUTICAL-BELLS-/310483123505?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item484a3c7d31

    • #17184
      helphistory
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      Maybe the wire has been replaced but the bell and clapper are not Chinese or Japanese. I trust the gentleman friend that had this bell.

    • #17185
      Willie B. Herd
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      Thanks Bill, Do you know how much it weighs? Also,did you say 9″ tall???

    • #17186
      helphistory
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      I am not sure about the clapper hanger but I am quite sure it is Naval. I do appreciate the forums input. Thanks Bill

    • #17187
      RockinEZ
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      I can rule this out as a US Navy bell on a capital ship since 1890
      The specification MIL-B674C was the spec used on ships of the line since that time.

      It is possible it was used by another navy, or for commercial use. You can see that at one time the bell was highly polished. This would indicate naval use, or at least someone cared how it looked once.

      Wire has not been used to support a clapper on a U.S. Navy ship’s bell in my experience.
      The clapper would look more like this:

      This photo is an actual MIL-B674C bell from before WWI. (pre restoration). The spec is a page from the current DOD bell spec. You can see that the military bells have replaceable parts. the clapper is held in with a threaded hex nut to a threaded rod.

      I am familiar with the blade mounting on the bell. This mounting was not used on US Navy issued bells for ships of the line. I have seen this mounting on small boats, commercial boats, and private boats. It is much less expensive than the mounting the U.S. Navy uses in it’s specifications.

      The mount would look more like this one from a MIL-B674C from the USS Chew commissioned in 1918 (famous from the Pearl Harbor attack). The photo is from the former owner, Jim at “The Ship in a Bottle” (http://www.theshipinabottle.com).

      Ship’s bell, possibly. A US Navy ship’s bell from a ship of the line?
      Personally I would not buy it or sell it as that.

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