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    • #11075
      PRRcollector
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      I recently purchased an 18″ diameter, 130 pound ship bell that was made by the Greenberg Foundry in San Francisco. Most of the information found online talks about Fire Hydrants that were made by Greenbergs. It does mention that they were establised in 1854 and served the Maritime Industry. I’m looking for more information about their maritime products and the years that the bells were manufactured.
      Thanks.

    • #14509
      bill.horstman
      Participant

      Hi,

      I primarily collect Greenberg fire hydrants, but also have several catalogs of Greenberg foundry products. The earliest listing for bronze bells is in the 1924 catalog (oldest that I have) and they appear, basically unchanged, in the 1969 catalog (the year that Greenberg sold-out to Rich Valve Co.).

      If you are interested in images from the catalogs, please contact me.

      Thanks,

      Bill

    • #14510
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Bill,

      Thank you for you kind offer to share your information with us bell enthusiasts! Having pictures and catalog write-ups will greatly enhance the value of this forum for our readers and members. If you would be so kind as to scan in the pictures of the bells and the information that goes with them (sizes, original prices, etc.), I would be happy to post them on the forum. Also, it would be good to have the information of the name and dates of the catalog(s) from which the information came.

      You may send this information to me at or you may post it yourself, of course.

      With appreciation,
      Admin (Carolyn)

    • #14511
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Bill Horstman has written a little more about the Greenbery Foundry and sent some pictures from the catalogs.

      Hi,

      I have scanned information relating to the Greenberg foundry, including their catalog listings for bells from 1924 (earliest catalog that I have), 1954 (company centenial edition), and 1969 (last year that they were in business).

      The bells look identical in all three catalogs. The introduction to the 1954 catalog provides a lot of historical information on the company (the third company president, Maurice Greenberg, was my wife’s grandfather).

      One of their bells is currently listed on eBay for $1250!

      From the 1924 Bronze Products by Greenberg, San Francisco, California, Catalog (two bells):

      M. Greenberg’s Sons STANDARD BELL WITH YOKE
      No. 805
      Diameter in Inches: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 18, 20
      Rough each (1924 prices): 6″=$4.70, 8″=$10.80, 10″=$21.00, 12″=$52.00, 14″=$90.00, 15″=$105.00, 18″=$130.00, 20″=$170.00
      Polished each: 6″=$10.00, 8″=$13.50, 10″=$25.00, 12″=$58.00, 14″=$100.00, 15″=$115.00, 18″=$140.00, 20″=$184.00

      M. Greenberg’s Sons STANDARD BELL WITH PORTABLE BRACKET
      No. 805
      Diameter in Inches: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 18, 20
      Rough each (1924 prices): 6″=$4.70, 8″=$10.80, 10″=$21.00, 12″=$52.00, 14″=$90.00, 15″=$105.00, 18″=$130.00, 20″=$170.00
      Polished each: 6″=$10.00, 8″=$13.50, 10″=$25.00, 12″=$58.00, 14″=$100.00, 15″=$115.00, 18″=$140.00, 20″=$184.00

      “Our bells are made of the best grade of bell metal and give a deep penetrating sound.
      Bell Metal Castings are made from new ingot copper and tin, no scrap metals in any of the mixture.”

      From the 1954 Bronze Products by Greenberg, San Francisco, California, Catalog T, (the same two bells):

      BELLS
      for ships, schools, fire department apparatus and towers
      Also Made to Conform to Navy Department Specifications
      Our bells are made of the best grade of bell metal and give a deep, penetrating sound. Bell Metal castings are made from new ingot copper and tin. No scrap metals are used in the mixture.

      No. 805 – Bell with yoke:
      Diameter in Inches: 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 18, 21, 24
      Polished bronze with sandblasted yoke, each(1954 prices): 6″=$31.80, 8″=$38.40, 10″=$68.90, 12″=$108.20, 14″=$156.00, 15″=$187.00, 18″=$299.00, 21″=$507.00, 24″=$806.00
      Weight: 6″=12 lbs., 8″=18 lbs., 10″=26 lbs., 12″=35 lbs., 14″=68 lbs., 15″=85 lbs., 18″=125 lbs., 21″=240 lbs., 24″=320 lbs.

      No. 806 – Bell with Portable Bracket.
      Diameter in inches: 6, 8, 10, 12
      Polished bronze with sandblasted bracket, each (1954 prices): 6″=$28.20, 8″=$32.30, 10″=$60.10, $12=$96.20
      Weight, with bracket: 6″=10 lbs., 8″=16 lbs, 10″=23 lbs, 12″=31 lbs.
      [*]14″ and larger are with fixed bracket.

      From the 1969 M. Greenberg’s Sons, Inc. Catalog (the same two bells):

      BELLS
      for ships, schools, fire department apparatus and towers
      Also made to Navy specifications MIL-B0674C
      Latest Issue 20 to 200 olb. wt. class
      Available in various finishes. Price on application.

      No. 805 – Bell Polished bronze with sandblasted yoke. Weight, with yoke:
      Size (in inches): 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 18, 21, 24
      6″=12 lbs., 8″=18 lbs, 10″=26 lbs, 12″=35 lbs., 14″=68 lbs., 15″=85 lbs., 18″=125 lbs., 21″=240 lbs, 24″=320 lbs.

      No. 806 – Bell with Portable Bracket. Weight, with bracket:
      Size (in inches): 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15, 18, 21, 24
      6″=10 lbs., 8″=16 lbs, 10″=23 lbs, 12″=31 lbs.
      [*]14″ and larger are with fixed bracket.

    • #14512
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      A California Bell Collector wants to share this information with us:

      A California native San Franciscian purchased a 20.3 lb US casted bronze Greenberg ship bell on May 2010: The Foundry name (Greenberg) is casted inside @ the top & the city of San Francisco also is as marked. Bell is 9 3/4 inches diameter & 12 inches high. Bronze clapper was included. Engraving is a deep (US) : It appears to have a US Navy & or a military connection???? The bell was owned by a retired passed-on (RIP) 91 y.o. San Francisco Fireman. The son stated that his father owned the bell the pass 30 years. His son also stated that the bell was taken off-of a San Francisco bay fireboat. Bell has a beautiful greenish patina & appears to be a model sold out of the Greenberg catolog for the years 1920s to 1930s for the sum of about $9.00+/- yankee dollars?????? Best/regards: A California Bell Collector

    • #14513
      jcrcattle
      Participant

      what kind of fireboat and the name of it or the man that passed away, great history stuff

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