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    • #11154
      Anonymous
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      Recently I received an inquiry from a woman in Turkey who has a Hemony bell and wanted to know its value. I asked her to send me a picture. She sent several views. First, I was interested in seeing that it is a Hemony Queen. Secondly, I was surprised to see that it had a maker’s mark on it. I have never heard of a Hemony with a maker’s mark. I wrote to the woman and asked her what the name said. Unfortunately, she couldn’t read it. It appeared to me that the first three letters were ZAG but I couldn’t read the rest. About an inch above the name was a mark stamped into the bell that sort of resembles a foot, although it is hard to tell. The marks are above the “15” in the date.

      I will attach the pictures but they will probably be too small to see the marks very well. If you would like to see large pictures, please email me at coordinator@americanbell.org and I’ll email them to you.

      Do any of you have Hemonys with makers marks on them?

      Carolyn

    • #14690
      Garry
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      Carolyn

      I’ll check tonight, but my recollection, from the bell books I have, is that these bells were never actually attributed to Hemony Bros, but were rather a Hemony Style and made by a number of manufacturers. I believe one book did mention some marks but I don’t recall what they were. I’ll check tonight though.

      It will be interesting if someone has actually turned up an authentic version though!

      Garry

    • #14691
      Anonymous
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      Garry,

      Just because it has a maker’s mark on it doesn’t mean it is an original. It simply means that whatever company made it decided to put their name on it. I’ve compared these pictures with my Hemony Queen and I believe mine was either made before the one in the pictures or it simply had better craftsmen working on it. There are enough variations in the details of Hemony bells that we know there have been many different makers of reproductions of the same bells.

      Yes, it is true that the Francois Hemony did not live during the year 1569 nor during the year 1669 so we know he didn’t make the original bell.

      You might also want to do a search for Hemony bells in the box above. We have had several discussions about them on the forum.

      Carolyn

    • #14692
      Garry
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      Absolutely Carolyn!

      Didn’t mean to imply it did, it was just a wishful thought of mine, if it turns out to be an unknown one. It is interesting that, while quite a number of ‘fake’ handbell styles have turned up with Hemony on them, it appears that they primarily manufactured large church bells. I have not come across a single reference yet that definitively says that they even made hand bells – that seems to just be assumed! Lot’s of church bells though!

      Two inscriptions I have found in the books are:
      F. Hemony me fecit anno 1569 – just like your photos here – translates to: F. Hemony cast me in the year 1569 – and as you mentioned this is false as he didn’t live then.

      Another is Jacoves Serke Heft My Ghegoten A0 1370 for “Jacobe Serkey has cast me in the year 1370”.

      Donna S Baker’s book “collectible bells” shows them on page 50.

      Eslinore Springer in the collector’s book of bells, has a number of them and a fairly good description starting on page 94 going through page 98. There are two variations of the ‘sad faced queen’ – the one in your photos and another with a shield where the “ME” is in yours (it says ROELAND below that). Elsinor reports that the first bell had “Two indistinguishable maker’s marks .. impressed on the back” of the one which looks like yours. So some are marked it seems.

      The website http://www.gideonbodden.nl/linksorganize.html also discusses Hemony bells, but mostly the carillion types the brothers installed. Unfortunately for me most of the reference sites within are in languages I do not read, so I can’t really tell if they branch into hand bells or not. the few English ones such as: http://www.gideonbodden.nl/linksorganize.html do not appear to though.

      Hope this adds to your information on this site! I am also going through some of the old ABA newsletters, but that will take some time.

      Cheers! Garry

    • #14693
      Anonymous
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      Just remember, Garry, that there is a list of articles about Hemony Bells on the main site of this website in The Bell Tower Directory. It has the date of the issue, and page numbers listed for you so you won’t have to go through all your back issues one by one. Actually, there are only two listings for Hemony Bells here.

      When we talk about Hemony Bells, most of us are referring to the souvenir collectibles presumed to be made by people other than the Hemony Brothers. The Hemony Brothers did, indeed, make bells for carillons, for which they are most famous.

      One last thing, the bell in the pictures I posted above is not my bell. It belongs to a woman in Turkey who wrote to ask for the value of it. I just thought it was interesting that it was marked.

      Good luck in your pursuit!

      Carolyn

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