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    • #10420
      BarbaraB
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      Hello – I have an old bronze handbell, dated 1669, cast by Francois Hemony of the famous Hemony Brothers of Amsterdam. I know that the Hemony Brothers are well known for their big bells, but I wonder if any members of the ABA knows about handbells made by these brothers. Of course, I am not sure if this is an original or a copy caste from the original.

      This bell has the head of a crone for a handle and has scenes depicted in relief all around it. I wonder if it is a commemorative bell of some sort. I do have photos if anyone is interested. I bought this bell in an antique shop in London decades ago and am only now researching it. Of note is the fact that Rembrandt died in 1669.

      Thanks for any information. Barbara

    • #12675
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Barbara

      Hemony and Serke bells have interested bell collectors for many years as there are no clear answers about who or when they were made.

      Many years ago a wonderful supplement was published by the Bell Tower trying to answer some of the questions regarding these bells. The following information is from that article:

      Francois and Pieter Hemony were born in France in 1609 and 1619 respectively. They worked together and separately in Western Europe mainly Germany and Holland. Francois died in 1667 and Pieter in 1680.

      Many of the Hemony bells have a date of 1569 which predates the brothers. Other dates dates reported on the bells included 1561, 1565, 1669 and 1674. No one knows for sure who made or when the first bells were made but some bells appear older than others. Also some bells have better detail than others.

      The bell you described has been known as the crone, monk, or warrior but most think it is a woman. There are some varieations in the nose, chin, tilt of the the head and eyes.

      Hope this helps.

      Adrian

    • #12676
      BarbaraB
      Participant

      Adrian – If the Hemony Bros weren’t born until the early 1600’s, why is the 1569 bell a Hemony??

      I wonder too, if the bells all have the same scenes on them? Are these bells collectors’ items or just run of the mill? Thanks for replying. Barbara

    • #12677
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Barbara

      The bells are referred to as Hemony because of the inscription not who made them as no one knows who did. While the maker or makers are not known they are still interesting and very collectible. Many collector are interested in the bells and the rarer figures have sold for large prices on the secondary market. You might check old September/October Bell Towers for prices that were paid at the auction during the annual convention.

      I know the different handled bells have different scene and I believe there are variations within the same handle. Hopefully someone else can supply a definite answer on that.

      FYI some of the bell handles are: the Queeen, the Lion, an oval wreath handle, Mailed Fist, gargoyle, Russian Bear, Knight, Man’s head, Knight in Armor, Warrior, Minstrel, Boy, Crusader, Smiling Man, Man with hat, Bagpiper and the Crone.

    • #12678
      BarbaraB
      Participant

      What are September/October Bell Towers? Magazines? Would these be on-line. I really have no knowledge about bells, so any help is appreciated. Where would I go about finding collectors, and/or post this bell for sale? On This site? Thanks. Barbara

    • #12679
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      The Bell Tower is the official ABA magazine (bimonthly) that we as ABA members receive. You’re going to find others by becoming a member. Check the many features of the ABA -all explained in other pages of our web site -by following the links at the top of this page (you’ll find “chapters, about us, and details of membership”) So many of us started with the research into just one bell, and it develops into a life-long educational (and social) experience. 🙂 🙂

    • #12680
      carillonista
      Participant

      Is there any chance I could get a copy of that Bell Tower supplement you mentioned from somebody? I have much literature on the Hemony brothers and carillons, but nothing on these kinds of bells, a few of which I’m researching.

    • #12681
      Federico
      Participant




      hello, my name is federico, the truth is my family campanaHOMONY ME 1669, this much abused and do repairs, I really like to know more about it and where can I sell it, if appropriate. Or if it is better to keep it. Excuse the poor translation.
      I leave some photos, by the way is 1969. In fact not Quiros, clean, if not more damage.

      hola, mi nombre es federico, la verdad mi familia tiene una campanaHOMONY ME 1669,esta muy maltratada, y de hecho reparada, la verdad me agradaria saber mas de ella y en donde puedo venderla, si es conviene. O si es mejor quedarmela. Disculpen la mala traduccion.
      Les dejo unas fotos, por cierto es de 1969. De hecho no la quiro, limpiar, por no dañarla mas.

    • #12682
      hjlong3
      Participant

      The Hemony Brothers perfected the carillon. It is reasonable to speculate that this did not occur by shear accident, but rather through an evolution of bell founding over several generations. Could the earlier dates reflect an ancestor of the famous brothers? There are no available records that indicate where the brothers learned their art. One thing is certain, however, that bells bearing the Hemony name have been cast from old designs up to the present. The older bells are cast by the “lost Wax” method, have excellent detail and no mold seams. Later bells were cast in two-part sand molds and have poor detail and prominent mold marks. The older bells are heavy and have a smooth or machined interior with a cast bronze tapper. The newer bells are light, thin walled, and have a rough interior usually with a tapper attached by wire. Older bells with unusual handles draw a higher price ($100-$500). The newer, light weight bells sell for $25-$50.
      Harry Long, MD

    • #12684
      osouk
      Member

      Hi,

      I am a total beginner when it comes to antiques and I have no idea about names, dates etc….

      Anyway, I went to an antique shop in Busan in South Korea today. Found some amazing pieces (well amazing to me anyway as I am not an antique expert!) that I really liked. One thing that struck me was a bell (without ringer) dated 1669 and with the name Hemony engraved. I thought it seemed reasonably priced for such an old item(about £10).

      Sounds like others have similar pieces. I have become quite attached to it but nevertheless would like to know if it has any value.

      The bell is missing the ringer I attach some photos. I dont know how to put an inage into a message with HTML so sorry they are attached…

    • #12685
      osouk
      Member

      more pics…

    • #12683
      hjlong3
      Participant

      This is a modern reproduction of an older “Hemony” bell. This particular bell was probably cast in Korea as many of the modern versions were cast there. It is unclear which bells were ancient and whether they were cast by a Hemony, but in general the older bells are heavy cast bronze and have a heavy elongated bronze clapper that is one piece and attached to a loop that was cast into the bell.
      Harry Long, MD

    • #29814
      pierrevr
      Participant

      Hi All. I read all the threads in the forum. Many similarities but also some differences. The bell i have has serious looking Lady as handle, prancing horses and faces The writing at the bottom read. F HERON – EXIT-ANNO-1669 OR 1639 . Bronze with smooth inside and bronze tapper connected onto handmade links. This bell is in South Africa, where there is a large group of dutch and french Heritage. The dutch settled here in South Africa 1652 onwards.

      Might we have a original? Who is F HERON?

      PLEASE GIVE UR OPINION.

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