Help needed to identify a Ship’s? bell
October 18, 2011 at 7:13 pm #11890nattyParticipant
Can anyone supply any info on the following Bell.
It has a crude crown makers mark with E P underneath. Next to it is stamped SCC 6/53 and under that in a cirlcle is SC with a C below and 7 below that.
On the reverse is stamped AF 334
The bell is 9″ tall and 9.75″ wide at the widest part.
It has a cast iron clapper and part of the original leather strop attached
Any information would be gratefully received
October 18, 2011 at 7:58 pm #16617Carolyn WhitlockParticipant
Are you sure that is E.P. and not E.R. (Elizabeth Regina)? Elizabeth Regina is Queen Elizabeth II, the reigning monarch in England. She was crowned on June 2, 1953 (6/53).
October 18, 2011 at 8:07 pm #16618nattyParticipant
It is Definately EP, and I am from the UK and am aware of the ER thing, the crown is far too crude for that
October 19, 2011 at 12:38 am #16619halanbParticipant
I remember seeing this bell when it was listed on eBay several months ago
and advertised as a Queen Mary Quarterdeck or Signal bell.
Beyond that, I know nothing about it.
Using your new picture, it seems to me as if there is the beginning of the descender stroke
in the R. The right side of the crown also looks more shallow than the left.
If so, there might have been a casting flaw.
The Queen Elizabeth was delivered in 1938 and referred to Elizabeth, then Queen Consort and later Queen Mother of the current queen Elizabeth II. Yet, if 6/53 is a date, then it might point to the current queen and not the liner.
The Cunard Line operated both vessals. You might try to contact them and see if they have any information.
June 24, 2013 at 1:50 pm #16620hourhouseParticipant
There are a number of these bells on ebay uk – 3 at the moment and they seem to crop up quite frequently.
(the stand appears to be made up from any old junk – the metal plate refers to a Victorian seed drill manufacturer!)
The cipher is definitely ER, but not fully formed on this bell, as there appear to be many bells with this cipher on.
They all seem to have similar markings and best guess is that the numbers refer to a date in the 1950s.
SCC may refer to Sussex County Council (Surrey has two councils, east and west and has had for a long time).
My online research suggests that these bells were originally mounted in pairs on fire engines, one rung by hand and another rung electronically.
This would tie in with Sussex County Council as fire engines are usually run at county rather than a district level.
Google fire engine bells for pictures and more information.
Once the fire engines were scrapped it seems likely that there were a lot of bells recovered and sold on for various uses.
Interestingly though, most fire engines appear to have chrome plated bells.
Here’s a picture of a restored two bell Surrey fire engine from 1951.
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