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    • #10914
      decka
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      I was hoping that someone could help with any information as to how common are these bells. This bell is very ornate and I was wondering if they are common in Europe and if many like them are still around or is this quite rare. Also a possible value of this bell on the open market for insurance purposes…………Thankyou in advance………regards……….Dave..Austalia

    • #13962
      lucky13
      Member

      Ornate is right, especially the crown! I’ve never seen one like it. Lots of European bells ended up in the rubble or melting pots of the world wars so yours might have been in Australia since the 19th century. A hundred dollars an inch (bottom dia) is about right for used bronze bells from US foundries but they more plentiful than anything like you have. Stettin (now Szczecin) is now part of Poland being it’s 7th largest city and the largest Polish seaport.

    • #13963
      hjlong
      Member

      This is truly a beautiful bell. C. Volz & Sohn is C. Volz & Son in English and most likely represents the Foundry. I know nothing about them, but would like to know more as this bell is absolutley gorgeous. The crucifix and name of the bell “Philumena” indicates that it was a Catholic Church Bell as they are Christened and named for a Saint, in this case Saint Philomena. This bell is a prize that would be welcome in most collections.
      Harry Long, MD

    • #13964
      decka
      Participant

      Thankyou again for the information its greatly appreciated…………..dave……..Australia

    • #13965
      BellSage
      Participant

      What a beautiful bell. Look at those pillars and faces, wonderful.

      It’s from an area that is rich and diverse in its cultural history. Stettin (Szczecin) was converted to Christianity in the 12th century and has variously been settled (or ruled) by the Slavs, Danes, Germans, Swedes, and Poles. I discovered a little bit about it when I was researching Bohemian bells since the borders in that general region have changed much over the years and you can’t study Bohemian bell production without learning about surrounding areas (and import/export patterns).

      The city would have been part of the German Empire (Prussian) at the time your bell was cast, hence the German script. Not long after it was cast, the area experienced great poverty and mass emigration. It’s amazing this bell survived the “meltdowns” (for ammunition and canon production) that plagued war-torn regions.

      Here is the site of a bell founder in Poland. There are also some great historic pictures on the site. They might not know English, but you could try contacting them and see if they have any knowledge of historic bell founders such as C. Volz & Son. If they don’t know English, perhaps you could find someone on the Net who would be so kind as to translate your message to Polish. I bet this bell founder would be thrilled to see pictures of your bell:

      http://www.felczynski.pl/

    • #13966
      Kurt Rothmann
      Participant

      Hallo decka,
      I was surprised and impressed to see the picture of your bell from Stettin in the bell talk of Carolyn Whitlock. I am collecting German church bells. So I know the kind of crown your bell has. I would like to hear more from you about it. For instance: how big is the diameter and the weight of the bell?
      And another question: are you collecting such bells or was this only a seldom case for you to find this bell? You can reach me by email (rothmannglocken@t-online.de) and by phone (0049 89 794780). I am member of the ABA for some years.
      The foundry of your bell is mentioned in a book from 1913 but without knowing any details. It seems they have existed already during the first half of the 19.c and they been active during the edition of that book in the beginning of the 20th c. The autor of that book did only know about 1 bell existing to his knowledge when he finished his book.
      Sincerely Kurt Rothmann at Munich Germany

    • #13968
      Tim
      Participant

      Hi Dave,
      Stumbled across this old thread when looking for info on the same foudry.
      I have located a bell by C. Volz & Sohn which is similar to yours but bigger, it is 730mm diameter and is at present in the tower of a church on Sydney harbour. The church didn’t know they had it as it was buried under years of bird droppings and has not been rung in living memory. As yet I only have partial photos of it because one has to stand on a beam 6 meters above the floor whilst holding the camera at arms length so as to get a partial shot. The bell should be out of the tower by the end of the week when it will be easier to provide more photos.
      Interestingly this bell is from 1875 and is named “COMCORDIA”

    • #13969
      Tim
      Participant

      Finally got the bell out of the tower today, this is the first chance to have a good look at it.

    • #13970
      jackbell
      Participant

      Is it going to be cleaned and restored for display or sold?

    • #13967
      Tim
      Participant

      Hi Jackbell, the bell will be cleaned up and put on display.

    • #13971
      RockinEZ
      Participant

      So glad I do not have to make this decision and the owner already has.
      I believe naval bells should be polished, and so did the Germans at the time.

      I do personally believe this will be a spectacular bell when finished.
      What a wonderful piece to find.

    • #13972
      Tim
      Participant

      Saw another ornate crown on a bell during a recent trip to Italy, this one depicts an image of a pregnant woman – a pagan symbol of fertility.

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