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    • #25154
      beausone
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      Recently purchased this great set of 12 Disney bells. They are a limited edition of 25,000 bells of each character. I am not able to find anything about them in any of my books or an internet search. Can someone tell me what years they were produced? Were they sold as a subscription plan?

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    • #25156
      beausone
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      Also would like to know what original cost was and if there were more in the series than the 12. These are stamped inside with “The Disney Collection, Disney’s Hall of Fame character name xxx/25000.” Donald doesn’t have a number, so I wonder if that was a mistake or it was bought at a park.

    • #25165
      Garry
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      Very nice looking bell set from the image! How big are they?
      I also can’t find them in my bell books – or on line – which is a surprise.
      Do you see (or feel) any embossed copyright markings on the bells? (You don’t say)
      Was there an original box for them that might have additional information?

      At first glance, they appear to be a limited edition production run for something like the Franklin Mint or Avon, as opposed to being produced specifically for Disney Stores. The missing number for Donald may or may not be a concern, depending on how the numbers are printed on the bells. Is it possible to get some images of these markings? (Donald and at least one other?) I am also assuming that the xxx is actually a real number and different in each case. Truly high end limited editions have the same number on all the bells. Less high end but still good quality will have the numbers mixed up within the set.

      Some limited edition ceramics have the numbers 123/25000 printed on, all with the same typeface. Others have either part or all of the 123/25000 component HAND written on and the bell re-fired to affix it. (People do similar things with indelible markers on cheap coffee mugs in their ovens.) In that case, whoever was doing the tedious numbering simply skipped a bell – by accident most likely. (Makes it a bit rarer!)

      The concern I have is two fold:
      1) you don’t mention any copyright markings on the bells. If they were produced for, or under license to, Disney – then those marks should also be present. Disney has an ongoing battle with people using their images without permission or payment. The marks should be printed, usually (99% of the time!) the same way the other marks are – so you should see them. Other ways include embossing into the bell at the time of manufacture. Recently, to save costs, they also went to sticky tags which can fall off or be removed – but it’s unusual for all of them to come off – look for sticky areas where the glue was in that case. The apparent quality of the bells indicates that those marks should be there. In much rarer cases the information is ONLY on ‘Hang tags’ which are easily lost and you are out of luck then.

      2) I also don’t see these bells anywhere on line. I have looked at the Disney site, the Disney stores, as well as a number of different general searches. Limited Edition items, especially quality ones, usually show up somewhere – auction sites, company sites etc. Yours don’t, which is somewhat strange.

      If you want to research it further, I would next try contacting Disney Corporation directly and see if they can shed some light. Be aware though, if they believe the items to be unlicensed knock offs, you may be required to surrender them for destruction under international laws.

      Also look to see if the bells are evenly constructed and shaded. Good quality bells will not be oval at the mouth (unless it’s part of the design of course!) and have the same thickness on the sides and evenly colored. Knock offs will tend to have more imperfections that can be seen if you look closely.

      Hope this helps, Let us know what you find out!

      Garry

      • #25168
        beausone
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        Garry, They are approximately 3×6, and there wasn’t any documentation or boxes with them. The xxx numbers are hand-written in black or gold ink into the stamp and are all different. Yes, there is a copyright mark in the stamp(pictures added), and some have a blue MADE IN JAPAN label. Dumbo’s stamp was screwed up. The thickness and color of the chamber is consist on all them, however the diameter can be slightly different(when I put rim to rim they may not meet exactly). The characters are hand-painted and very well done without smears. I did as you suggested and found a contact for Disney archive questions and sent an email with pictures (as they do have the copyright). I will update when I get a reply. I also sent questions to a couple of eBay vendors that I did find with one of the characters listed (found in ended listings). Thank you for your reply, Ailene

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    • #25166
      Garry
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      PS. Forgot to mention: Limited Production Runs are usually even in number (6, 8, 12, 16, 24…) so a set of 12 is likely the complete run. Often, if the initial limited edition sells well, they may add another run set (6 more characters for example) so there may be others, but likely from/of another set.

      Garry

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      • #25187
        beausone
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        I see what you mean by the additional runs. I bought this set of Russ Berrie angel bells in 2002 thinking it was a complete set, but recently I have found 4 others that are not included. My internet searches have not come up with an active contact for the Russ Berrie company to inquire about them.

    • #25177
      Garry
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      Excellent! They are original then. With that wording, they should have been made for the Disney Studio stores themselves. Slight variations between the bells is common on these pieces so I wouldn’t be worried about the bells skirts not lining up, it was more of poor castings within any single bell I was asking about.

      The country information is called a ‘backstamp’. The words “MADE IN” were added to the requirements by the US Terrif act modification in 1912 so the bells can date no earlier than that. Paper labels started becoming common in the 70’s. The 2 latest figurines in the collection are the Alice in Wonderland (1951) and the Pooh Bear (1977) so your collection is likely post 1977.

      Given the additional information you have provided, check out this page I found:
      http://www.whatacharacter.com/a-f/d–page8.htm
      about 1/2 way down is Donald! He is described as a bisque bell in construction.

      Please let us know if you find out anything more! It helps us assist the next person who asks.

      Garry

      • #25189
        beausone
        Participant

        Will do. So far have not gotten a reply from my inquiry to Disney archives.

    • #25575
      golfing61
      Participant

      I actually own these as well – My mother bought them for me as I started collecting bells as a teenager. They came individually – one ever month – was supposed to be a bigger set, but I guess they never really took off so they stopped production. They started in late 70’s or early 80’s. Funny I only have 10 not 12. I have :
      Mickey
      Minnie
      Donald
      Goofey
      Gepato
      Pinnochio
      Snow White
      Cinderalla
      Tinker Bell
      Mad Hatter

      Always wondered if they were worth anything

    • #25585
      beausone
      Participant

      I just knew that someone out there had to have these, too. 🙂 I don’t have Gepato–can you post a picture of him? That would make 13, so as Garry explained about limited editions, perhaps they did make an additional run. Did these come with a certificate of authenticity? Do you remember how much they cost originally? There is one Goofy listed on eBay right now, and seller is asking $36 for it reduced from $60. As always, value is what a buyer is willing to pay. I found mine in a local antique store, and I paid $75 for the set–a terrific buy I thought. They were from a gentleman’s estate, and the family had finally decided to sell his Disney collection. It looked like he collected all Disney, not just bells. Guess I will have to keep an eye out for others in this line. 🙂

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