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    • #29100
      libertybell
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      I purchased this bell the other day, and it says Crystal on the upright and has 2 on the yoke. But it seems very rough compared to other bells similar to it I have seen. There is a lot of casting flash on it. It also seems to have casting sand still on it. The old guy I bought it from said he bought it in the early 80’s and didn’t think it had ever been hung.

      My question is, is this an actual CS bell or was there imitation ones made?

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    • #29109

      Undoubtedly there were anonymous reproductions made, and this is probably one of them. I base that statement on the fact that the “2” on the yoke is in the wrong place, and there should also be a “2” on the base of the fork, between the three bolt holes. Your observation of the crudeness of the casting goes along with that.

    • #29110
      nightflier51
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      Yes and the ring cast line around the inside tells me it is a reproduction. Most all them had the parting line around middle ways inside of the bells….

    • #29111
      libertybell
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      Ok, that confirms my suspicions. I am not familiar enough with these bells to know where the casting lines or ID marks should be, but knew it just looked “off”. It doesn’t really bother me too much, I have been wanting a decorative bell to put up on my property for some time. Out here on the west coast where I live, bells are pretty few and far between. When you do find them, bells like this often are priced around 300.00-400.00 which is more than I am willing to pay for a yard ornament regardless of its authenticity. After I clean and paint it, I think it will look just fine.

      Thank you for your insight. Best regards, Brian.

    • #29112
      nightflier51
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      As for tonal quality and strength, its a great bell. The one like you have is no longer being made from what I can gather. I have seen them sell for 2 and 3 hundred dollars. Beware of the new ones from China. They are very thin even at the lip and crack real easy. They have a fancy motif around the outside lip but they are cheaply made. Yours probably is around an inch at the lip just like the old ones were. Being they are no longer being made, yous can be called a collectable….

    • #29113
      libertybell
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      Were these replicas made in the US or were they imported? I paid 165.00 for it which I think is probably pretty fair. It literally still has sand in the crevices by the 2 on the yoke and up inside the bell. It is grey in appearance in the photos. If this bell had been in the weather for any amount of time I would assume that would have washed away.

    • #29114
      nightflier51
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      An antique dealer told me that they were made in Mexico but i cannot confirm that. There was a foundry down there casting them back in the 1980s. They never identified there company name on any of their castings. The cranks are very similar to Ross Meehan cranks of Chatanooga Tennessee. You got a good one im sure but that foundry did not grind down their works. They just sent them out that way.

    • #29115
      libertybell
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      That was another question I had, from a restorative standpoint should I sand down the casting flash before I clean and paint it? I cannot see a down side to doing so.

    • #29116
      nightflier51
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      You might want to get a hand grinder and protective glasses and grind away the part line ring inside too.

    • #29117
      libertybell
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      Ok, I used to be a steel fabricator and have all the necessary equip. at home to do a nice deburr on this bell before I clean and paint it. Thanks for your insight I really appreciate it.

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