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    • #10649
      Anonymous
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      Mike in California asks:

      I Purchased a “Souvenir Columbian Liberty Bell” (circa 1893) at a garage sale recently…would like to know more about it; but having a hard time sourcing any info. I see you’ve just concluded your ABA convention in Chicago, and actually had a speaker who addressed the Columbian Liberty Bell…Any info, or direction you could provide would be appreciated!

      Can anyone help him out?

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    • #13231
      Frank
      Participant

      If I recall correctly, the speaker was Lenore Hammond. I don’t believe she does the computer/internet thing. But, we will be seeing her this weekend at our Ozark Chimers meeting. I’ll print out your post and ask her for information.
      Frank

    • #13232
      Anonymous
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      Mike,

      I also have a Columbian bell as you mentioned. They made one to commemorate that one in 1983 i think but it was markled as a 100 year anniversary bell. I’m pretty sure I have the one made in 1893. Mine has a lot of engraving on the bell. Does yours have any engraving on the bell?
      Steve

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    • #13233
      Anonymous
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      The McShane Bicentennial Commemorative of The Second Liberty Bell

      From the flyer advertising the Limited Edition to commemorate America’s 200th Birthday:

      In commemoration of our 200 years of Liberty, the descendants of the founder of the McShane Bell Foundry are making available, through The Limited Collection only, a Bicentennial Edition of “The Second Liberty Bell”. Limited to 2500, these individually numbered bells weigh 3 1/2 pounds and measure 6 1/8″ x 5 1/4″ x 6″. Hand crafted and cast of bell metal, they are hand burnished and polished so they shine with a rich golden glow. Mounted with yoke and wheel, like large turret bells, they have a solid metal clapper which rings with the beautifully disciplined tone.

      The bell rests on a metal standard inscribed with the words, “Replica of 1893 Columbian Liberty Bell – J. R. McShane Bicentennial Commemorative”. Also available mounted on a ridged wood plaque suitable for wall hanging. The wooden plaque may be personalized with your name or message on a metal plate.

      Each bell is accompanied by a certificate of authenticity and a history of the bell.

    • #13234
      hjlong
      Member

      The McShane replica was made of bronze and had the wording on the base indicating that it was a replica. The 1893 souvenir bells were also bronze and were identical to the McShane commemorative bells, as the reproductions used the same specifications as the original. I have seen a number of good brass reproductions that were made in Korea in the 1970s and were sold at flea markets for about $35-50. Whether you have an original 1893 bell, the 1983 reproduction or one of the “knock-offs”, you’ve got a very nice bell.
      Harry Long, MD

    • #13235
      mikewho
      Participant

      Steve,

      Saw that you made a post through the ADMIN…any chance you could shoot me a “pm” to discuss the engraving on your bell!

      OR…post a picture of your bell in this thread!

      Thanks,

      -Mike

    • #13236
      mikewho
      Participant

      @hjlong wrote:

      The McShane replica was made of bronze and had the wording on the base indicating that it was a replica. The 1893 souvenir bells were also bronze and were identical to the McShane commemorative bells, as the reproductions used the same specifications as the original. I have seen a number of good brass reproductions that were made in Korea in the 1970s and were sold at flea markets for about $35-50. Whether you have an original 1893 bell, the 1983 reproduction or one of the “knock-offs”, you’ve got a very nice bell.
      Harry Long, MD

      I agree…it is a handsome bell.

      It would be nice to see some photos of the different replicas for comparison. Suprised to learn that a Korean knock-off was made

      Thanks

    • #13237
      mikewho
      Participant

      At this years ABA convention in Chicago…Al Trinidad addressed the Columbian Liberty Bell…did anyone attend his presentation or know how to reach him?

      -Mike

    • #13238
      Carolyn Whitlock
      Participant

      Mike,

      It appears that my Columbian Liberty Bell is a reproduction. It does not have any engraving on it. Although mine is a nice quality bell, I can see that it is not exactly the same as the McShane Commemorative Bell. For instance, the finial on mine seems to be a little more elongated. The ridges that go around the bell are different in number and distance apart. The clapper in mine is not quite as fine as McShane’s.

      Now, I’m curious to know if the front of all the McShane bells has the flywheel (is that the right term for it?) on the left. Mine is on the right.

      One thing I’ve noticed about many of my bells, especially the figurines and figurals, is that there are subtle differences in duplicates. It makes it harder to weed out the so-called duplicates!

      Hope this helps,
      Carolyn

    • #13239
      hjlong
      Member

      This is one of the Korean reproductions that was sold in the 1970’s. I have one just like it. They are good bells, but are not McShane origional or comemorative bell. I paid $35 in 1975 and considered it a good buy. The McShane bell sold for a much higher price.
      Harry Long, MD

    • #13240
      Carolyn Whitlock
      Participant

      You’re right about the price, Harry. The flyer for the McShane Bicentennial bell says the commemorative was $95.00 for the inscribed metal standard, $109.00 for it mounted on a wood plaque, and $119.00 for it to be mounted on a wood plaque with a personalized metal plate.

    • #13241
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Alan Burgdorf sends the following:

      1893 McShane Liberty Bell

      Width: 6 1/16”
      Depth: 3 3/4”
      Height: 6”
      Wheel diameter: 5 3/16”
      Weight: 3lb 7oz

      Front rail reads (cast or stamped):
      “SOUVENIR COLUMBIAN LIBERTY BELL 1893”

      Back rail (cast or stamped) reads:
      “MCSHANE BELL FOUNDRY. BALTIMORE, MD.”

      Top band of engraving reads:
      “GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST AND ON EARTH PEACE GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN”

      Center front engraving reads:
      “A NEW COMMANDMENT
      I GIVE UNTO YOU
      THAT YE LOVE ONE ANOTHER”

      Center rear engraving reads:
      “A. D. 1893.”

      Bottom band of engraving reads:
      “PROCLAIM LIBERTY THROUGHOUT THE LAND UNTO ALL THE INHABITANTS THEREOF”

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    • #13242
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Mike in California writes and sends a picture of his Columbian Liberty Bell:

      My bell has “McShane Bell Foundry, Baltimore MD” stamped on the front of the base…which is different from the bicentennial replica which is inscribed with J.R. McShane’s name.

      I have attached a photo of my bell…since it’s clearly different than the J.R. McShane Commemorative, and different from your bell as well…too many variations!

      Sorry for the picture quality, if you enlarge the image you can see the engraving on the bell itself.

      -Mike

      Mike’s bell looks like Alan’s. What can he do about the green on the bell?

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    • #13243
      Carolyn Whitlock
      Participant

      I asked Alan if there was a souvenir Columbian Liberty Bell sold at the 1893 Exposition as well as the Bicentennial Commemorative one in 1976. Here’s what he said:

      Carolyn,

      Yes, there were two different versions – 1893 and 1976. Mine is the original from 1893 and has 100 years of natural bronze patina. I think it is the only one with the engraving on the bell, and the base plate is marked as I stated.

      I don’t think the 1976 repro has engraving on the bell, and the base plate is marked as the Bicentennial replica version. I don’t have one, but there were two sold in the auction this Summer.

      Alan

    • #13244
      rogers
      Member

      I just have to add my two cents to this topic having given a talk on the 1893 Columbian Exposition Bell at the 1989 ABA Convention in Torrance, CA. The original 13,000 pound 1893 Columbian Exposition bell was cast by the Meneely Bell Co. of Troy NY. The DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution) authorized that the remaining surplus metal from the original Meneely bell be shipped to the McShane Bell Foundry in Baltimore, MD, and be made into souvenir bells, mounted on a brass frame, complete with a wheel and pull cord. The Columbian Liberty Bell Committee was responsible for having these souvenirs made and sold. Most bells were sold to schools. Each school was urged to place the bell in a conspicuous spot, preferably at a height where students themselves could reach the cord and sound the bell. A certificate and a copy of the Liberty Primer were issued with each bell.

      There are different marking on many of the original 1893 McShane bells. Mine has the name of a church in Allentown, PA. A copy of the original McShane souvenir bell was produced by Andrew McShane, grandson of the founder, in 1976. A version from Taiwan was also produced in 1976. Both 1976 versions were attached to wooden bases. I have two photos I wish I knew how to include with this reply. One shows the original Meneely bell in its massive wooden frame and its miniature version owned by my mother. The second photo shows a variety of McShane bells.

      Hope this helps.
      Nancy Rogers
      Amesbury, MA

    • #13245
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      Here are Nancy Rogers’ two pictures.

      Admin

      Posted at Nancy’s request.

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