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    • #11556
      ovidiu oana
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      bells history – bells for cattle

      The bell was born more than 20.000 year ago at the biginnings of civilisation, as a necesity for the primitives herdsmans.

      They need to protect their cattle from beasts or to easy identify this cattle.

      This first bells was carved in wood before the bronze or iron periods, I mean long before third millenium B.C., but was also used by poors after bells was casted in metal.

      Here there are two examples of such bells I have in my collection ilustrating the bells beginnings:

      first picture below: Maasai Carved Wooden Goat Bell Kenya African
      http://bells.zuavra.net/picture_view.php?picture=30

      this kind of bells with one, two or three clappers was used in all south and central Africa and they are still use its.

      the seconf picture : Wooden bull bell – Indochina area[url]
      http://bells.zuavra.net/picture_view.php?picture=180%5B/url%5D

      this bell is usual all Asia from Ceylon to Mongolia and from China to Middle Orient.

      But also in my country in north area as in all Carpathian Mountains area the Thracians (the old population located here) was used same bells as shape, but only one clapper.

      Everyone can see the likeness between.

      I have a question for historians:
      How was possible those time, to such huge distances between, different populations to create the same instrument without direct contacts, in absence of poste, phone, telgraph, Internet a.s.o. ?

      My answer is: I believe we have to study more and/or to reevaluate the history, esspecialy the beginnings one.

      Thank you all visitors!
      wooden handmade bells for cattle you can find to my site in album nr. 11:
      http://bells.zuavra.net/picture_list.php?album=11

      post scriptum: as a bridge over time, the only wooden religious bell(s) I know there are in the museum of MISSION SAN BUENAVENTURA from California; you can see one below.

    • #15992
      Anonymous
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      Thank you for sharing the research you have done about your bells. You have some very nice bells.

      I expect that you will get some responses to your questions in a few more days. Most of our members look at the “Bell Talk” Forum on Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays. Also, we have had a national holiday in America this week and many people go on holiday for the whole week.

      How long have you been collecting bells? Most of the bells you have shown us are animal bells. Do you collect other kinds, too?

      Would it be better for you if I used a translator to write this in Romanian?

      We are glad you became a member of the “Bell Talk” forum and hope you will continue to post bell information!

      Carolyn

      Vă mulţumim pentru partajarea de cercetare le-aţi făcut dumneavoastră cu privire la clopote. Ai niste clopote foarte frumos.

      Am convingerea că veţi avea unele răspunsuri la întrebările dvs., în câteva zile mai mult. Cei mai mulţi dintre membrii noştri uita-te la Talk “Bell” Forum sâmbăta, duminica şi zilele de luni. De asemenea, am avut o sărbătoare naţională în America în această săptămână şi mulţi oameni merg în vacanţă pentru toată săptămâna.

      Cât timp ai fost de colectare clopotele? Cele mai multe dintre clopotele ne-aţi arătat sunt clopote de animale. Ai colecta alte tipuri, de asemenea?

      Ar fi mai bine pentru tine, dacă am folosit un traducător pentru a scrie acest lucru în română?

      Suntem bucurosi sa a devenit membru al Talk “Bell” forum si speranta ca veti continua pentru a posta informaţii clopot!

      Carolyn

    • #15993
      ovidiu oana
      Participant

      Hi Carolyn and thanks for your appreciations!

      I know about Labour Day and I hope it was a nice one hollyday for you.

      I’ll be happy if ABA and ~Bell Talk~ members will direct participate to my posts with informations.
      This will help me to complete The Worlwide Bells History I wrote (this post about wooden bells is a small fragment of the introductive chapter of Volume II ~ A look to the beginnings~.

      I started collecting bells 12 years ago and in time I directed my aquisitions to find bells illustrating all major cultures of mankind, in fact to have pcs. expressing bells history, except the church bells.

      As I described into my first post my collection have more than 300 pcs presented on>
      http://bells.zuavra.net , each one with a short description/presentation.

      Thank you for the help to translate my posts. I’ll really appreciate when someone will make correction of my text. I will ask for help for difficult translations.

    • #15994
      hjlong3
      Participant

      In addition to wooden bells, early man also used tuned stones or lithophones. The Chinese developed tuned Bianquing (limestone lithophones) about 2000BC. The Vietnamese version was Da Dan and were in use as early as 1000 BC. Similar stone musical instruments were used in Great Britain and Central Europe over 2000 years ago. The Marimba is a modern wooden tuned musical instrument. Chinese Bianquing were perfected and several Jade instruments were used as late as 200 years ago. Man has used various hardwoods, minerals and metals to perform musical sounds for various purposes since the first caveman struck a hollow log with another log or a hard rock with a wooden mallet or another rock. These eventually evolved to the fine musical instruments of modern carillons and English Handbells that we have today. The history of bells and bell sounds is fascinating.
      Harry Long, MD

    • #15995
      ovidiu oana
      Participant

      Thank you Harry for all this!
      Yes, it’s true! The same time with wooden bells for cattle, long time befor early man used as a communication instrument tuned stones or lithophones same time with clay and stone bell.

      This kind of primitive bells as communication instruments was rifed during Stone Age in all continents.

      I’ll talk about in my next post

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