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    • #10880
      RAE0414
      Member

      VOCEM MEAM AUDIT” “OUI ME TANGIT, found a small bell attached to an old farm house in KY, It was attached to the front door area. It has an Angel on it, maybe 6 inches, i have seen something about it on your sites but they were old, and none with an angel

    • #13838
      wonderwoman2310
      Participant

      I have a bell that fits your discription. It is a brass bell with an angel on the front. It has the inscription VOCEM MEAM AUDIT OUI ME TANGIT across the bell. There are different animals under the inscription on the bell. There are 2 dogs, a fox, and a bird that looks like a swan. I am so excited because I have been trying to find out what the inscription means and any information that I can find about it. I found out today what the inscription means by reading another forum. I have had this bell about 15 or more years. I went to an auction and bought a box of odd and ends and the bell was in the box. It is a very heavy bell and all the original pieces are still intact.

    • #13839
      catryan
      Member

      Vocem Meam Audit Oui Me Tangit means whoever touches me will hear my voice. It is Latin

    • #13840
      hjlong
      Member

      I also have one of these. They were cast in Belgium and were widely used as door call bells in Belgium & France. They were probably cast in the early 20th century. Similar bells with the 4 evangelists on the skirt and the Latin”Pater Noster” on the rim were also used as Sacristy Bells in the Roman Catholic Churches of Belgium and France.
      Harry Long, MD

    • #13841
      martlet1
      Participant

      Hi.

      I was doing a little research today and found this board. I also have a bell with VOCEM MEAM AUDIT OUI ME TANGIT on it, but this one has dragons, a french woman, a lion, a pelican, and what looks like a dog on the bottom. The bell is brass, but it was cast in 2 pieces and welded together, and the top hanger is pot metal, with a crown on top, and dragons and old french decorations on it.

      Any clue on how to look these up?

    • #13842
      hjlong
      Member

      This is a variant of the door call bells described in the other replies. It is not likely that your bell was cast in 2 parts and welded together. The weld marks are probably mold marks from a 2 part “sand cast” mold that were not ground off by the manufacturer. Older bells were cast by the “lost wax process and do not have such marks on their sides. The pot metal bracket would also suggest a rather recent casting as older bells had brass bracket and mountings. The dragon mounting is not unusual. The symbols on the skirt of your bell represent the Four Evangelists (Synoptic Gospels) of the New Testament: Matthew-Human, Mark-Lion, Luke-Bull, John-Eagle. If the bird is truly a Pelican, it represents Jesus. These designs are common on the skirt of similar bells that were used in the Roman Catholic Church as Sacristy Bells and have the “Pater Noster” (“Lord’s Prayer”) or the “Sanctus” in Latin around the skirt. The description of your bell is likely that of a modern ammalgamation of designs from older bells that were cast by someone who did not understand the symbolism of the older bells. It was most likely cast in Asia (possibly Korea or Taiwan).
      Harry Long, MD

    • #13843
      martlet1
      Participant

      The casting looks VERY crude, like the metal wasn’t ground down or smoothed in the process. The mountings are brass, and the bell is brass, but the dragon designs and cross look like pot metal.

      I know the bell is at least 70 years old though, as I have now talked to the previous owner who had it as a door bell on an older home, and it was the bell that he grew up with as a child on his home. He is in his 80’s now. I will photobucket some pics, just because I am curious what you think.

      Thank-you for helping solve a little mystery!

    • #13844
      dwrosensf
      Participant

      hey guys and girls,

      just found an old one like this and would like to see some pictures. will send you some of mine when I get a pic. its got a nice patina on it but the clapper has been starting to rust from exposure.

      thanks for any help.

      david

    • #13845
      martlet1
      Participant

      Ill try and get another picture taken of it this weekend and post a link or IMG.

    • #13846
      gskennedy
      Participant

      [attachment=0:10rz0pvr]Bell1.jpg[/attachment:10rz0pvr][attachment=0:10rz0pvr]Bell1.jpg[/attachment:10rz0pvr]Hello everyone

      I recently discovered an old bell (photographs below). It hasn’t been taken care of which is a shame. I’m interested in restoring it and wondering if anyone knows how old it might be? I’m assuming it’s over 100 years old considering the age of the house it’s attached to.

    • #13847
      gskennedy
      Participant

      Sorry about double posting the same photo… here’s the second picture I took. Unfortunately a piece has snapped off the top. I wonder if it will be valuable once I restore it? I’m not interested in selling it though, it’s special that I found it after so many people seem to have mistreated it. I can’t believe there’s paint on it from when the previous home owner painted the house![attachment=0:3eay9z4g]Bell2.jpg[/attachment:3eay9z4g]

    • #13848
      Anonymous
      Inactive

      G.S.,

      This is just an FYI. If you log onto the “Bell Talk” Forum and go to your first posting, you should see a button that says “Edit” on it. If you click on that button, the original text box should come up. To delete the second posting of the picture, simply select the duplicate text in the IMG code for the picture and delete it. Then preview it to make sure you only deleted one picture. If the preview shows only one picture, simply click on “submit.”

      Admin (Carolyn)

    • #13849
      hjlong3
      Participant

      Use a paint stripping agent such as Stripease to remove the paint rather than an abrasive or steel wool that wil remove the patina and scratch the surface. The bell value will be reduced by extensive polishing.
      Harry Long, MD

    • #13850
      artlvngirl
      Participant

      I was wondering if anyone had any more information about the hanging brass bell wonderwoman posted about recently. I too have found one with a dog, fox, swan, and lamb as well as the latin inscription. I haven’t seen any pictures of any as large or cone shaped as mine. It also has the entire frame and is only missing the chain. I would love any possible leads for further information.
      Thanks!

    • #13851
      pjgeorge
      Member

      I have a bell like this as well, except mine has a woman’s head, a lion, some sort of crane, and a deer with designs that are similar to a fleur-de-lis between each. My husband says his grandmother brought it from Lebanon when she emigrated in the early 1900s. I’d really like to know where it came from and what it was used for.

    • #13852
      lucmor78
      Member

      [attachment=0:1rg6t7zp]DSC_0921.JPG[/attachment:1rg6t7zp][attachment=1:1rg6t7zp]DSC_0078.JPG[/attachment:1rg6t7zp][attachment=2:1rg6t7zp]DSC_0920.JPG[/attachment:1rg6t7zp]

      I have attached a picture of the Bell I have acquired it has the latin writing on it and I was just wondering how old it might be. I do not know the history ,,I bought it at an auction. It is brass and it measures 8″ tall and 5 ” in diameter across the bottom it also has the ladies holding the swords on the sides it looks to be very old and I think it is brass it has the gold color in places . It is a beautiful Bell Any help would be great I dont know if you can see the picture if not I will reattach it. Thank you for amy help.

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