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    • #12195
      GenB
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      I am trying to figure out this Bell’s origin and age. It says “ARDUINO-RINA” around the top. Also has numbers 5-248-87 on the other side of the top. I have googled every possible thing I could think of with no luck. I am hoping somebody here might have an opinion. It is 12″ tall and rim is 12″ as well. Thanks in advance!

    • #17311
      GenB
      Participant

      I have tried to post photos with no luck. I noticed my bell could say “Arquino Rina” Around the top…..

    • #17312
      Garry
      Participant

      Welcome Glen!

      Well, if you send me your photos by e-mail, I can help you post them. And photos are indispensable to help identify a bell.
      temp.gdm at fastmail dot fm will get to me, It’s a temporary e-mail I set up to help you.

      From the markings, it’s Italian.

      The style (shape) of the bell will help.
      Are the markings Stamped on? Engraved? or cast into the bell?
      You give the size of 12″ tall and a diameter of 12″ which helps, but what is it made of?
      For example: Does it hold a magnet? (iron)
      What type of mounting did/does it have? Boat bells mount differently than Train bells and differently than school bells … etc.
      Do you have any history of it? (where / when acquired for example. Knowing it was found in a certain location gives clues of origin.)
      From just the size and not knowing the shape or any other details, it’s hard to give an answer.

      An interesting observation though. There is an Italian immigrant ship by the name of Arduino Rina which docked at Ellis Island in 1909. It apparently was 17 years old at that time. Don’t jump to conclusions, but it is interesting…

      Garry 😉

    • #17313
      GenB
      Participant

      The name is cast on the bell, letters raised. It has the pad eye type attachment on top. I will try to send a picture via email. If it doesn’t work out, you can see a picture of it on EBAY listed as Large Brass Bell 12″ Rim although I’m considering canceling the listing until I figure out where it is from. I saw the same thing about Ellis Island but when I registered on the website to see what it said, it appears it was a passenger name Arduino Rina. I appreciate the help… it’s driving me crazy!!

    • #17314
      GenB
      Participant

      I forgot to mention, this bell was rescued from a salvage yard so I have no history on it. A magnet does not stick to it.

    • #17315
      Garry
      Participant

      Here are the photos.

    • #17316
      GenB
      Participant

      Thank you so much Garry,

      I think I solved my mystery. It’s not as romantic as a bell off steam ship that docked at Ellis Island. I believe it is just a Marine Nautical Safety Equipment Supplier from Italy. Arduino has been in business for 40 years but link for website doesn’t work so maybe that division isn’t in business anymore. If you type in www Arduino genova dot com , you’ll see what I mean. It says “We make you seen”. I guess there is no way to know which ship it came off of but it’s still a nice find and I’m glad I was able to save it from the scrap yard.
      Thank you so much for your help!!
      Gina

    • #17317
      Garry
      Participant

      Gina,

      I wouldn’t give up on it just yet. Yes, I saw the site too, but I can’t see why it would have such a bell, except for display. While it could be the Italian safety company, but then think of; where did you get it? (Are you in Italy? Where was the scrap yard you got it from? Likely there are closer ones to them!) It’s less likely they would ship the bell elsewhere themselves so it would have to be someone buying it for their own use on a boat or some such, then giving it up to the scrap yard later.

      While it could be solely a display piece, this does look like a working ships bell to me.
      The mounting lug is typical for such a type of use, and the size seems to be consistent with a small to mid sized working vessel.
      Alternatively, it could be the Arduino Rina Style of bell used for something like a freshwater lighthouse bell (for largish lakes) or inlets, although they were usually mounted differently.

      Looks to be brass and I currently believe it to be an interesting treasure!

      Yes, Arduino Rina is indeed a person’s name. It wasn’t all that uncommon to name vessels after important individuals. Think of the US Aircraft Carrier Eisenhower as an example. They don’t have to use historically famous names either. It could also be a ship named after the vessel’s owner, or a family member for instance. I didn’t get any hits on the name by itself so it’s less likely to be a famous person but not all Italian history is on the web of course! It may also just be serendipity that someone with the same name was also on board the ellis island vessel listing. (I have a famous race car driver with my exact same name too, and it’s definitely not me! :mrgreen: )

      Do you have any photos of the interior? I’d like to see the clapper and how it’s mounted. I suspect it has a lug under the ball for a lanyard to be attached. Yes? No?

      I think the numbers are the Foundry’s identification code. It is likely something like Style 5, Order# 248, 1887 or something like that.

      Perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable than I on the ships bells will be able to give better details now that some images are available!

      Garry

    • #17318
      GenB
      Participant

      Yes the fact that I can’t find another bell like it, I do wonder if it’s more significant than I’m thinking. I live in the Hampton Roads Area (Virginia) with many different types of ports and soon to be sequestered shipyards around us. This afternoon, I discovered RINA stands for Registro Italiano Navale, a marine safety certification organization. I originally thought it was the RINA (ROYAL INSTITUTE OF NAVAL ARCHITECTURE) so was somewhat of a break-thru to find Italy uses the acronym as well.

      What I can’t understand is where can you find bells this size for ships… or do they not use bells anymore? As far as the clapper, it is missing 😕 possibly why it would be in a scrap yard. There is a loop inside the bell to accommodate it. I should probably be searching for a replacement clapper. Otherwise, nothing but a black greasy substance with no hint of anything to identify they bell by.

      It would be great if we could match up someone with knowledge of this style/brand ship bell and the photos of it, but I suspect that guy is out to sea as we type. I know how grueling the search for info was and I greatly appreciate your efforts. 😀 I’m not even going to ask how you got the pictures to post..lol
      Gina

    • #17319
      Garry
      Participant

      Gina,
      Very nice to see you are still looking into it! You are making some good progress!

      Actually, if you have a look at some of my recent postings on other bells here, I gave a link to a site in one of them that has the reference you are looking for. It’s the only one I have found that lists bell sizes with ship sizes and was put together by the US Navy to standardize their stock.

      Sorry I don’t have it handy just now to point directly to it, I am not at home at the moment.

      Because others have a similar issue, I’ll take the time to mention the answer here:
      Actually posting is not hard, you just have to find a free program that re-sizes your images to what the site permits. Yours were simply too big to post. Either something on line like http://www.picresize.com or Microsoft’s resizer power toy etc. (I am not endorsing any of these, it’s just the first ones that appeared when I searched for ‘open source image resizer’ and ‘free web image resizer’. There are literally hundreds of versions out there for all makes of computers.) Just pick the one you like!

      Garry

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