Thanks Garry I finally got it in the house for storage until spring when i can mount it with a ross meehan 22 i have out back. This bell i just bought has a bit lower tone than the cs bell no 20 ( from brosamers sound samples) but very beautiful. It has weathered alot due to the number barely readable. Im gonna get Rustoleum black and paint it later. This bell is not smooth like the ross meehan is. I has alot of rough places from being in dampness for prob 100 yrs or so, but is very solid. Ron